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It learns language based on what people have said to it and how they have interacted with it.
Is this robot thinking??
10.10.06
What Would Augustine Do?
I'm know attempting to teach Augustine's Confessions to a group of freshman (anyone praying for me: please add in something about this). They tend to assume that they know what the Confessions must contain, without reading it, because it's written by a Christian. They neglect to consider the difference that one thousand six hundred years can make. So, I made up the following questionnaire. I will have them give their answers, and then give the answers Augustine would have given. Take it yourself, if you like. The goal isn't to give Augustine's answers, but to contrast our answers with Augustine's. If you want to guess what Augustine would say, that's okay too. I'll post Augustine's responses in a few days.
Read the following statements; if you are a Christian, check those that you believe; if you are not check what you think a present day Christian believes.
1. ___ It’s okay to keep a concubine.
2. ___ It’s okay to abandon a woman you love and with whom you have a child for the sake of your career.
3. ___ It’s okay to go see horror movies and be thrilled with them.
4. ___ It’s appropriate to weep for your parents when they die, even if you are sure they are going to heaven.
5. ___ God is completely spiritual and entirely lacks human form.
6. ___ One of the best ways to live as a Christian is to renounce sex altogether and become fully chaste.
7. ___ A Christian thinks about the condition of his or her soul every day, nearly every minute of every day.
8. ___ In the end time, our physical bodies will be resurrected and turned by Jesus into an incorruptible substance.
Here's a cheesy portrait of Augustine. I take it that he's a model Christian: handsome, male, serious, concerned about his soul...
Read the following statements; if you are a Christian, check those that you believe; if you are not check what you think a present day Christian believes.
1. ___ It’s okay to keep a concubine.
2. ___ It’s okay to abandon a woman you love and with whom you have a child for the sake of your career.
3. ___ It’s okay to go see horror movies and be thrilled with them.
4. ___ It’s appropriate to weep for your parents when they die, even if you are sure they are going to heaven.
5. ___ God is completely spiritual and entirely lacks human form.
6. ___ One of the best ways to live as a Christian is to renounce sex altogether and become fully chaste.
7. ___ A Christian thinks about the condition of his or her soul every day, nearly every minute of every day.
8. ___ In the end time, our physical bodies will be resurrected and turned by Jesus into an incorruptible substance.
Here's a cheesy portrait of Augustine. I take it that he's a model Christian: handsome, male, serious, concerned about his soul...
4.10.06
my new job
i got a job at an elementary school, called North Rock Creek/Korte, in the kansas city public school district.
they have a website: http://www.kaboom.org/Default.aspx?alias=www.kaboom.org/nrckorte
a couple of times a year, they have a wildlife/environmental studies camp in warrensburg, mo, which is about an hour and a half from kansas city. the one for this semester starts this sunday. and guess what? i'm going along, too. as part of the job.
next week, everyone will need to send john e-mails and phone calls because i won't be there for him to talk to.
if you would like a view of the school, follow these steps:
1. go to http://maps.google.com
2. type in "2437 S Hardy Ave, Independence, MO 64052"
3. in the top right corner of the map, you will see the buttons 'map', 'satellite', and 'hybrid'. choose satellite.
4. the school is actually located a little bit south east of the green arrow. you will have to zoom in on the map in order to see it. (this can be done with the mouse roller or the zoom scale on the left of the screen)
5. now, south east of the arrow, you will see an oval-shaped parking lot. just south of that is the school building.
located behind the school building, and behind the parking lot, are things like an amphitheatre, a log cabin, and a little wooded area that has benches and a path where the kids can go to read if they want. i think they've started calling it 'the secret garden'. pretty cute, huh? i don't think you'll be able to pick these things out on the map, but it's still neat to see a bird's eye view of the school.
so, even though this job is not going to be luxurious or high profile, or even well-paying, i think that it will be a great job. it is important to me to make connections and friendships with people. it is hard to do that if i only see them once or twice a month (at most), which is what happens with substitute teaching. i think that if i were able to sub everyday in liberty, i would end up making more than i will make at this full-time job. but i think that the life i will have at this job will be better than the life in which subbing plays a substantial role.
they have a website: http://www.kaboom.org/Default.aspx?alias=www.kaboom.org/nrckorte
a couple of times a year, they have a wildlife/environmental studies camp in warrensburg, mo, which is about an hour and a half from kansas city. the one for this semester starts this sunday. and guess what? i'm going along, too. as part of the job.
next week, everyone will need to send john e-mails and phone calls because i won't be there for him to talk to.
if you would like a view of the school, follow these steps:
1. go to http://maps.google.com
2. type in "2437 S Hardy Ave, Independence, MO 64052"
3. in the top right corner of the map, you will see the buttons 'map', 'satellite', and 'hybrid'. choose satellite.
4. the school is actually located a little bit south east of the green arrow. you will have to zoom in on the map in order to see it. (this can be done with the mouse roller or the zoom scale on the left of the screen)
5. now, south east of the arrow, you will see an oval-shaped parking lot. just south of that is the school building.
located behind the school building, and behind the parking lot, are things like an amphitheatre, a log cabin, and a little wooded area that has benches and a path where the kids can go to read if they want. i think they've started calling it 'the secret garden'. pretty cute, huh? i don't think you'll be able to pick these things out on the map, but it's still neat to see a bird's eye view of the school.
so, even though this job is not going to be luxurious or high profile, or even well-paying, i think that it will be a great job. it is important to me to make connections and friendships with people. it is hard to do that if i only see them once or twice a month (at most), which is what happens with substitute teaching. i think that if i were able to sub everyday in liberty, i would end up making more than i will make at this full-time job. but i think that the life i will have at this job will be better than the life in which subbing plays a substantial role.
18.9.06
a few pictures
Some bi-planes we saw practicing for the air show. We also saw the blue angels, some wart hogs, a b-52, and some other bi-planes.
14.9.06
A lecture from my Christianity and Tyranny class
Here's an example of what I'm doing in my "Christianity and Tyranny" class, in case it interests anyone. Comments welcome. J H-W
The Old Testament, Jesus, and Moral Reasoning
I. The Bible as Repository of Divine Precepts
Some hold that the Bible should be approached as containing a series of absolute laws that can straightforwardly settle what to do in many situations.
1. The Bible says not to commit adultery (Exodus 20:14)
2. The Bible is the word of God.
3. One ought to obey the word of God.
So, 4. One must not commit adultery.
There are two problems with this view of moral reasoning.
1. Unless this is supplemented with something else, it leaves a great deal underdetermined. Specifically, it leaves undetermined what counts as ‘adultery.’ Recall that polygamy was widely held to be permissible in ancient Israel. Yet, for most of us, it would count as adulterous.
One might think this problem could be fixed with a direct specification of what counts as marriage, and what things would count as transgressing marriage, but this proves not only difficult to do, but probably impossible.
I will argue below that this is one reason Jesus rejects this mode of moral reasoning.
2. Surveying the body of laws in the Old Testament, there are laws that presently seem to us important and laws that don’t, and even laws that strike us as repugnant. Yet, if we are really committed to premises (2) and (3) above, then there seems to be no grounds for making a distinction among them and refusing to act on some of them. There is some temptation to look to Jesus for help here, but Jesus did not revise the text of the Old Testament, and he even says, “I did not come to abolish the law, but to complete” (Mat. 5:17)
This leads us to a dilemma: either we accept that we ought (for example) to give rebellious children the death penalty (Deut. 21:18-21) or we reject the Bible as the word of God. There is, on this view of the law, no middle ground for picking and choosing which laws we want. But I suggest that it is the model of reasoning above that leads to this dilemma, and we ought to reject it, and, indeed I think Jesus is teaching us a different way of looking at the law.
II. The Bible as Source of Moral Exemplars
Instead of looking at the Bible as a source of moral precepts, we might look at the Bible as providing us with moral exemplars. In fact, I think it provides us with examples of good AND bad or misguided action. Obviously we are not supposed to imitate Adam and Eve as they take the fruit from the tree of knowledge. But we do see ourselves in them, we reflect on temptation and how hard it is to be obedient to God. We are to feel sympathy with them, and to follow the story that is unleashed by the fact that humans have this (constant?) possibility of temptation away from their duties. This is what good literature does: it represents us to ourselves realistically; it picks out stories and characters that reveal the human drama poignantly. In the case of the Bible (as with much ancient and medieval literature), the human drama is wrapped up intimately with a divine story. Some of the Bible’s most moving moments occur when people do something misguided out of love for God or their people, as when Jephthah pledges his daughter to God (Judges 11:29), as well as when God reaches out with his mighty hand and leads his people powerfully (Exodus).
What is it to be a moral exemplar? In the case of a positive moral exemplar, someone that is presented as admirable, we not simply to do what they do. Obviously, few of us are in a position literally to lead a nation out of oppression (Moses) or to abandon our families to go about itinerant preaching (Jesus). A moral exemplar is someone we are to see as acting on the right reasons and having the proper motivations; we are to follow those reasons and motivations so far as our lives yield opportunities for doing so. We are to try to follow the shape or the form of the life, though we cannot live the life of Moses or of Jesus. We are to take the opportunities presented to us and to attempt to act (for example) benevolently in them, allowing Jesus to shape our conception of benevolence.
The difficult question is: how does this understanding of the Bible, as a source of moral exemplars rather than moral precepts, affect our understanding of the Law?
I think we are to see Moses as using the law as an instrument to bring the nation of Israel to the love of God. In other words, the law is not the goal; rather, the goal is moral perfection. Jesus can be read as making the claim that people are confusing the law with the moral perfection that it is supposed to help them achieve. The law, which points in the direction of moral perfection, cannot bring about that moral perfection for the reason I pointed to earlier: by itself it is indeterminate. Indeed, Jesus’s claim, I think, is that the law is only properly understood and read by a person who is virtuous, that is, by a person whose soul is shaped in response to God, who strives at every moment to be in accordance with his will. Of course, if that’s the case, then how does the law point to moral perfection in the first place? This paradox (that we need the law to achieve perfection, but need perfection to read the law) is precisely why we need Jesus. The Jesus is to bridge the gap and bring us, through His supernatural intervention, simultaneously to a proper understanding of the law, and to moral perfection.
Jesus speaks of respecting every letter and dot of the law, but then, he himself seems to break the Sabbath law. Matthew here has Jesus claiming priestly dispensation for doing so; Mark has Jesus make a more interesting claim (Mark 3:4), “Is it permitted to do good or to do evil on the Sabbath?” This is supposed to strike us as absurd, I think. It is always permitted to do good and never permitted to do evil; those who read the law as ruling out doing good, or permitting doing an evil, have thoroughly missed the point.
The Old Testament, Jesus, and Moral Reasoning
I. The Bible as Repository of Divine Precepts
Some hold that the Bible should be approached as containing a series of absolute laws that can straightforwardly settle what to do in many situations.
1. The Bible says not to commit adultery (Exodus 20:14)
2. The Bible is the word of God.
3. One ought to obey the word of God.
So, 4. One must not commit adultery.
There are two problems with this view of moral reasoning.
1. Unless this is supplemented with something else, it leaves a great deal underdetermined. Specifically, it leaves undetermined what counts as ‘adultery.’ Recall that polygamy was widely held to be permissible in ancient Israel. Yet, for most of us, it would count as adulterous.
One might think this problem could be fixed with a direct specification of what counts as marriage, and what things would count as transgressing marriage, but this proves not only difficult to do, but probably impossible.
I will argue below that this is one reason Jesus rejects this mode of moral reasoning.
2. Surveying the body of laws in the Old Testament, there are laws that presently seem to us important and laws that don’t, and even laws that strike us as repugnant. Yet, if we are really committed to premises (2) and (3) above, then there seems to be no grounds for making a distinction among them and refusing to act on some of them. There is some temptation to look to Jesus for help here, but Jesus did not revise the text of the Old Testament, and he even says, “I did not come to abolish the law, but to complete” (Mat. 5:17)
This leads us to a dilemma: either we accept that we ought (for example) to give rebellious children the death penalty (Deut. 21:18-21) or we reject the Bible as the word of God. There is, on this view of the law, no middle ground for picking and choosing which laws we want. But I suggest that it is the model of reasoning above that leads to this dilemma, and we ought to reject it, and, indeed I think Jesus is teaching us a different way of looking at the law.
II. The Bible as Source of Moral Exemplars
Instead of looking at the Bible as a source of moral precepts, we might look at the Bible as providing us with moral exemplars. In fact, I think it provides us with examples of good AND bad or misguided action. Obviously we are not supposed to imitate Adam and Eve as they take the fruit from the tree of knowledge. But we do see ourselves in them, we reflect on temptation and how hard it is to be obedient to God. We are to feel sympathy with them, and to follow the story that is unleashed by the fact that humans have this (constant?) possibility of temptation away from their duties. This is what good literature does: it represents us to ourselves realistically; it picks out stories and characters that reveal the human drama poignantly. In the case of the Bible (as with much ancient and medieval literature), the human drama is wrapped up intimately with a divine story. Some of the Bible’s most moving moments occur when people do something misguided out of love for God or their people, as when Jephthah pledges his daughter to God (Judges 11:29), as well as when God reaches out with his mighty hand and leads his people powerfully (Exodus).
What is it to be a moral exemplar? In the case of a positive moral exemplar, someone that is presented as admirable, we not simply to do what they do. Obviously, few of us are in a position literally to lead a nation out of oppression (Moses) or to abandon our families to go about itinerant preaching (Jesus). A moral exemplar is someone we are to see as acting on the right reasons and having the proper motivations; we are to follow those reasons and motivations so far as our lives yield opportunities for doing so. We are to try to follow the shape or the form of the life, though we cannot live the life of Moses or of Jesus. We are to take the opportunities presented to us and to attempt to act (for example) benevolently in them, allowing Jesus to shape our conception of benevolence.
The difficult question is: how does this understanding of the Bible, as a source of moral exemplars rather than moral precepts, affect our understanding of the Law?
I think we are to see Moses as using the law as an instrument to bring the nation of Israel to the love of God. In other words, the law is not the goal; rather, the goal is moral perfection. Jesus can be read as making the claim that people are confusing the law with the moral perfection that it is supposed to help them achieve. The law, which points in the direction of moral perfection, cannot bring about that moral perfection for the reason I pointed to earlier: by itself it is indeterminate. Indeed, Jesus’s claim, I think, is that the law is only properly understood and read by a person who is virtuous, that is, by a person whose soul is shaped in response to God, who strives at every moment to be in accordance with his will. Of course, if that’s the case, then how does the law point to moral perfection in the first place? This paradox (that we need the law to achieve perfection, but need perfection to read the law) is precisely why we need Jesus. The Jesus is to bridge the gap and bring us, through His supernatural intervention, simultaneously to a proper understanding of the law, and to moral perfection.
Jesus speaks of respecting every letter and dot of the law, but then, he himself seems to break the Sabbath law. Matthew here has Jesus claiming priestly dispensation for doing so; Mark has Jesus make a more interesting claim (Mark 3:4), “Is it permitted to do good or to do evil on the Sabbath?” This is supposed to strike us as absurd, I think. It is always permitted to do good and never permitted to do evil; those who read the law as ruling out doing good, or permitting doing an evil, have thoroughly missed the point.
13.9.06
Chopping some food.
This picture was taken a few weeks ago. I like it because it shows Gray Cat sitting in the chair by the table. He likes to be a part of the fun, even in the kitchen. Maybe I should say especially in the kitchen... just in case someone pours a little milk.
We have stopped giving the kittens milk to try to keep them from begging for it and climbing on top of things in order to get to open containers of it.
This is Gray Cat with the mouse.
The mouse is just some pieces of fabric shaped like a mouse. There is a pouch inside for catnip. If the mouse is in a different "room" of the apartment than the one we are in, the kittens like to pick up the mouse in their mouth and bring it to us. They meow loudly when they do this, to get our attention... I guess to show us what sweet treat they are bringing. Those silly kittens!
6.9.06
job information
Here is practical information concerning my job search.
Today I had an interview at a new frame gallery. I would be selling art, frames, and learning how to make frames. It would be nice to be around art and people making things all day. I think it went ok.
Tomorrow I have an interview at a coffee house (not starbucks) called Beanology. John and I went there to have coffee last weekend when I turned in the application. It is a cute place, but a little sterile. It's almost like, what if Wendy's were decorated in black and gray, and had regular lights instead of flourescent. It would be a job, and probably not a bad one.
Low pressure... I could probably wear jeans and t-shirts (instead of something suite-like). For some reason, that sounds great. Maybe it is because whenever I go shopping for 'work clothes', nothing really fits the way I would like it to. I have one nice pair of gray pants that pretty much has to go with everything. Ok...I admit it,
I tried to use some of the Macy's gift cards we got to buy clothes. I was thwarted by the fact that Macy's does not carry clothing that fits me, unless I want something with pink hearts and stars and ribbons on it.
Seriously.
I am also going to stop by this other place, www.bagettes.com. It's a place where you send them a digital picture, and they transfer it onto fabric and make a bag out of it. Pretty cool. A little cheesy, but cool. Apparently it's a famous company, but it's located in Overland Park, KS (suburb). They are looking for someone to cut and press fabric, and maybe do some sewing... It would be a good opportunity to learn some things about working with fabric to improve my sewing skills. The pay, however is only $7/hr. Imagine working a whole day and only coming away with $50. yikes.
Thursday, I have a substitute job set up to go in for a Jr. High math teacher. She's giving tests the whole day, so it should be a breeze. But it will finally be a little money earned off of something besides selling things through the internet (like books, the futon, and my blood... just kidding! i haven't been selling my blood over the internet--i don't think that's legal.
but maybe I should check into it... just kidding, i'm not really going to check into selling my blood over the internet or anywhere else).
oooh!
i knew you were scrolling down, just to see if i would put a picture of blood.
heeheehee.
Today I had an interview at a new frame gallery. I would be selling art, frames, and learning how to make frames. It would be nice to be around art and people making things all day. I think it went ok.
Tomorrow I have an interview at a coffee house (not starbucks) called Beanology. John and I went there to have coffee last weekend when I turned in the application. It is a cute place, but a little sterile. It's almost like, what if Wendy's were decorated in black and gray, and had regular lights instead of flourescent. It would be a job, and probably not a bad one.
Low pressure... I could probably wear jeans and t-shirts (instead of something suite-like). For some reason, that sounds great. Maybe it is because whenever I go shopping for 'work clothes', nothing really fits the way I would like it to. I have one nice pair of gray pants that pretty much has to go with everything. Ok...I admit it,
I tried to use some of the Macy's gift cards we got to buy clothes. I was thwarted by the fact that Macy's does not carry clothing that fits me, unless I want something with pink hearts and stars and ribbons on it. Seriously.
I am also going to stop by this other place, www.bagettes.com. It's a place where you send them a digital picture, and they transfer it onto fabric and make a bag out of it. Pretty cool. A little cheesy, but cool. Apparently it's a famous company, but it's located in Overland Park, KS (suburb). They are looking for someone to cut and press fabric, and maybe do some sewing... It would be a good opportunity to learn some things about working with fabric to improve my sewing skills. The pay, however is only $7/hr. Imagine working a whole day and only coming away with $50. yikes.Thursday, I have a substitute job set up to go in for a Jr. High math teacher. She's giving tests the whole day, so it should be a breeze. But it will finally be a little money earned off of something besides selling things through the internet (like books, the futon, and my blood... just kidding! i haven't been selling my blood over the internet--i don't think that's legal.
but maybe I should check into it... just kidding, i'm not really going to check into selling my blood over the internet or anywhere else).
oooh!
i knew you were scrolling down, just to see if i would put a picture of blood.
heeheehee.
4.9.06
orange tomatoes
these amish people at the market always have the sweetest tiny tomatoes.
this week, i bought orange ones.
juice
i am fascinated with the look of fruits and vegetables.
i like to look at the textures, lines, shapes, colours.
especially against the grain of a cutting board or the kitchen table.
In the first picture, I used a flash. In the second picture, I didn't. In the second picture, the vegetables strike me as being lonely, even though that's a strange thing to attribute to vegetables. It is the late afternoon dwindling sunlight that does it, I think.
The yellow vegetable on the board is a golden beet. The veins going through it look like someone's trigonometry homework. Graphing the cosign of the golden beet's wavy veins.
These vegetables made golden orange juice.
Black cat likes to sit at the table while I work.
25.8.06
Jalapeno Poppers
Last Saturday, we bought about 10 fresh jalapenos at the farmers market down the street from our house.
Today, we still had nine left. We have only fixed Mexican food once this week. Let's face it, jalapenos are just not that common an ingredient if you aren't cooking Mexican.
We decided to use the rest of the jalapenos (that were starting to wither) to make jalapeno poppers. Deseed them, stuff them with monterey jack cheese, dip in batter, then fry. Fry them in the fry daddy that you got as a wedding present. That makes them really great.
an upclose look at a perfect specimen. this jalapeno was red.John shows a plate of our entire meal: the jalapeno poppers, refried beans, and spanish rice. It was quite a delicious meal. Tomorrow we have to go to school for orientation.
For some reason, at William Jewell, the incoming Freshmen have their first class meeting for their GEN ED 100 on the saturday before classes actually start. I just have orientation for the continuing education class that I am taking. booooorr-r-r-rring. even if it's boring, it's only for an hour. it will just be a tour of the campus, with a stop by the book store to buy books for the semester. it'll be a lot like a tour of a city in Europe: the tour guide will show us the city, then take us by the fanciest gift shop in hopes that we'll buy something.And, what would a post from Laura and John be without a very cute photo of one or both of the kittens?
It just wouldn't be right, and it just wouldn't make much sense!
Here they both are, taking a nap together on the couch. sooooo cute!
24.8.06
a daytime view from the window
Here is our view during the day.
and a picture of cute little black cat.
and a picture of cute little black cat.
17.8.06
trip to memphis and corinth
Mom is looking at John's syllabus. She cannot believe that he would actually make his students read Reinhold Niebuhr.
Joe helped move furniture. Then I held his mountain dew for him while he rode his motorcycle home.
Motorcycles get good gas mileage.
This cloud was enormous.The Arkansas sky
and the Mississippi sky
are only slightly
different.
16.8.06
sara and erin came to visit
sara and erin, two friends from ohio, came to visit us on their way from colorado back to ohio.
while they were here, we went to eat indian food, ate some thai food, made soul food & sweet tea, and went to see Talladega Nights.
In the Plaza, this upscale shopping center in KC, there is a park bench with a statue of Benjamin Franklin sitting on it. I'm sure that ol' Ben would've spent his money on fashions from Eddie Bauer and Urban Outfitters if he were still alive.
John insists that he is "only friends" with Mr. Franklin.
while they were here, we went to eat indian food, ate some thai food, made soul food & sweet tea, and went to see Talladega Nights.
In the Plaza, this upscale shopping center in KC, there is a park bench with a statue of Benjamin Franklin sitting on it. I'm sure that ol' Ben would've spent his money on fashions from Eddie Bauer and Urban Outfitters if he were still alive.
John insists that he is "only friends" with Mr. Franklin.
28.7.06
Where we actually live
This is where we actually live.
We live on the top floor, facing west. Here's a view from out our window.
And two very cute inhabitants of our apartment.
27.7.06
22.7.06
New Lyrics to a song by Air Supply
We have to amuse ourselves while packing. The fumes from cardboard boxes can have seriously adverse affects to [sic] our mood.
As a diversion, we spontaneously extemporaneously catatonicalazically came up with some new lyrics to the song "You're every woman in the world to me" by the band Air Supply.
You're every cetacean* in the world to me,
You're my manatee,
You're Shamu's baby...
You're every cetacean in the world to me...
*cetacean-An aquatic mammal of the order Cetacea, including whales, porpoises and dolphins. (http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/glossary.html)
18.7.06
Our Trip to Ann Arbor
These are my friends: Dave and Erica Grimm-Choberka, and their daughter Ellie. I've been friends with Dave since high school. He's working on a Ph.D. in German Studies at the University of Michigan. Erica has a degree in botany, and has taught science at a Steiner high school for the past three years. Dave and Erica have been married for ten years now, and Ellie will turn two in September.
Ellie is already quite talkative. She loves to push carts around the house. Last Halloween she went as a skunk.
We couldn't resist trying on the costume ourselves.
Ann Arbor is a nice town. We couldn't escape hell fire and damnation, however.
13.7.06
a picture from our hanging out time with craig
we had a great time.
we ordered a pizza. then we went to a party thrown by someone that craig works with at the Olive Garden.
one of craig's friends talked us into playing spades- he said, only one hand, then we'll quit. because we didn't want to stay that long, and spades can take a long time. because there was only supposed to be one hand, i didn't bother making sure we spelled out and agreed on all the rules.
well, needless to say, more than one hand was played. on about the third hand, i decided to go nill. my partner, this girl who has a crush on craig, bid five. it seemed safe. well, at the end of the hand, i hadn't won any tricks, but she only won four tricks. i was like, ok, at least we got ten points. then i saw craigs friend write "-50" on our side of the score sheet. i reminded him that i went nil and he should take account of that. he said that because our team went set, i didn't get the nil points. i don't know where he learned rules for spades, and i didn't want to get into a fight with him because he was craig's friend, so we just left.
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